Directions: Watch the video (if you have trouble accessing the video from Blogger, go directly to YouTube address: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSO_d1svtfU).
What is the main argument of the video? How does the introduction of the video support this argument? What about the main support (what types of main support are there?)? What would make the middle part more convincing, if you feel it does not effectively support the main argument? How does the conclusion of the video work to wrap up the whole argument?
Note: If you wish to comment on the video, please perform the assignment first, and then comment.
(You might think that listening to parts of this video is torturous, but push through).
Due before class on Wed. Feb. 5th.
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Note: Disagree with what you think your classmate misdiagnosed or mislabeled as part of the argument, especially the evidence. If you wish to disagree with his/her opinion, do so, but please perform the assigned reply first.
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Reply due before class on Monday, Feb. 10th.
I found the main point of the video was on the use of sound at high levels for a type of torture used in interrogation at Guantanamo Bay. Supporting evidence is that they say sounds at high decibels will start to create permanent damage to the ears. Also they say that at loud levels on cheap speakers, the music will start to distort and can become even more annoying than the loud music itself. The use of loud and high frequency noise in the video enforces the idea of how that could be very tortuous to be forced to listen to for days at a time.
ReplyDeleteI don't really disagree on a high level, but you know its required to reply, and your the only one so here it goes. Our perception of the main idea is different, if not opposite, you believe it was the interrogation, and I believe it was the certain levels of noises and how they can be damaging. But that's just how we perceive it, and we perceived it differently. Again though, that doesn't mean your wrong.
DeleteThe main point to me was how certain levels of sounds can cause discomfort, and how they can be painful and leave damage to your ears. The supporting evidence was in the middle part of the video, they explained how sounds were used as a form of torture in an interrogation in Guantanamo Bay. This supports the idea that sounds can be used to cause pain, and in some cases, distortion is actually more annoying and damaging than the loudness level itself. I believe the middle part was convincing, because to me it was a great way to support the man idea of how different levels of sounds can be damaging and tortuous. The conclusion ends with more annoying noises, just further proving the point how it could be painful, and be used for torture.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you about main point, supporting ideas, etc. The sound in the video is too noisy to watch it over and over to figure out more details, but I think it is clear that it is about the levels of sound.
DeleteI see what your saying as the main point of the argument. We have the same idea of the video but just with different ideas of the main point. we both agree on sound at high levels causing discomfort to the ear which was used as a form of torture. I think i may have just flip flopped around a little from the actual ideas in the video.
DeleteThe main point of the video is that playing distorted music through old speakers in higher decibels was an effective method of torture for the Guantanamo Bay prisoners. The introduction supports the main argument because it discusses how complex the ears are, and that while any noise can eventually become irritating, music played at higher decibels would cause more annoyance and even ear damage while listened to for a long period of time. The middle part of the video was convincing as it gave the audience a sample of what the prisoners were subjected to, and also underlined how annoying higher frequency sounds and distorted music can be. The conclusion wraps up the argument by symbolically showing how the ears react to the continuous distorted music through the liquid turning into a solid and then into a liquid again.
ReplyDeleteThe main argument in this video is to explain several methods of interrogation to prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. The video starts with different sounds at different decibels and the narrator explaining what levels of frequency the human ear can take. the middle of the video has a former prisoner talking about his living conditions and being in shackles. The prisoner also talks about the use of loud heavy metal during his captivity, and use of very loud speakers. The end of the video has the former prisoner talking about the hardships of transitioning to the regular world. He described it as not knowing how to interact with people, and forgetting how to walk because he had been in shackles for so long. The end of the video has a speaker playing some music to help illustrate a different mind game used in interrogation
ReplyDeleteThe main argument is sound harms our ears when it reaches a certain decibel. In the beginning of the video a guy talks about decibels and tones and then he gives an example which is sound in the video. I think there are two main supports: One of them is the noisy sound, and the other one is talking about how sound was used in Guantanamo Bay to torture people. The argument in the middle of video, which is a guy talking, supports the idea sound was used in Guantanamo Bay to torture people. And the conclusion is an experiment about how liquid reacts the sound.
ReplyDeleteI feel like you didn't go into detail about the video, you did get all the main points just not in depth. Personally I think there is only one main point, that the "noisy sound" was the torture technique of Guantanamo Bay. But overall I do not disagree on a high level.
DeleteI agree with you that I didn't go into details about the video. I was dizzy after watching it once :) . So I didn't watch it many times.
DeleteAs Brittany said, you didn't seem to go into great detail about the video. However, that doesn't mean you missed the main points. Maybe just go a little more in-depth next time. I also do not disagree with your post otherwise. I can definitely agree about getting dizzy watching it, though -- I had to re-watch it a couple of times just to get past all the noises.
DeleteThe main point of this video was about how something as simple as sound can be used as a torture method at Guantanamo Bay. The introduction of the video supports the main point by playing high pitch tunes that can become annoying or painful over time. The middle gave detail on how sound was used for torture. They would play heavy metal music for 48 hours during interrogation on inexpensive speakers because the cheap speakers had distortion. Distortion was more annoying than the sound of the music. The middle was convinced me of the main point because they had a prisoner give detail on his experience at Guantanamo Bay. The ended was wrapped up by playing an example of heavy metal music that prisoners were forced to listen to.
ReplyDeleteThe main argument of this video was about how sound can be harmful if one uses it in a certain way. The introduction supports the main argument by proving how sound can hurt someone's ears when used in pitches higher than 80 decibels. (My dog wasn't a fan of this video was also proof) The middle part of the video was very convincing and thought out the way they had a prisoner give descriptive details on his experiences giving the viewers a mental picture of what he went through. The ending was okay it was kind of boring how they proved the speaker can turn solid into liquid...even though it symbolized how painful it would be to endure the sound I just got side tracked at the end and had to re watch it.
ReplyDeleteFor the most part I do agree with you have to say. The sound being harmful is what the main point is; the ending did show one of the key components in bringing the video together as a whole. The end just showed how the sound is distorted, not necessarily trying to show pain. The distortion is what caused the pain. Over all, I do agree with you about the rest of the video and the evidence that was present.
DeleteThe main point of this video is to show how a simple form of torture can be sound and the decibel used. The introduction is a valid point to the argument of this video, it explains how complex the ear is and how sounds effect a person. The man in the video "Massive Attack- Saturday Come Slow" was a prisoner at Guantanamo Bay. The prisoner was the supporting evidence that sound is used as a form of torture. The middle part of the video helped support the prisoner of Guantanamo Bay, that the sounds they used were damaging and torturous. I feel like the conclusion of this whole video helped show how distorted music can effect the ear from turning a solid into a liquid, back into a solid. It helps the watcher imagine how that can be damaging to the ear, if it can do that so quickly to a solid.
ReplyDeleteI think you are correct about how the distortion of sound can physically damage the ear, but there is more to it. I don't want to counter what you said, but I have been in his situation only on what was called the good side of the law and the ear is merely a symbol of how fragile and changeable the human emotions and psyche are. You can have a way of life and your own way of doing things that define your identity, but it is so fragile and changeable by an outside source that you may have no control of the results. Your identity is as fragile as the semi solid form in the video that was manipulated on purpose to shape a form the world or just one individual wants it to be. You can try to shape it back afterward, but it will still be distorted. I hope I haven't offended you and maybe showed you a little more.
DeleteThe point of the video is a first hand account of how sound is a tool used in interrogation as a way to break someone down to give intelligence. When used in psychological operations, loud and/or distorted music can in some cases have a permanent effect on not only the p[physical health of the ear and it's anatomy, but emotional as well. The end of the video should how vibration from sound can turn a liquid into a semi-solid form and back to it's original liquid form: much the same as the internal working of the ear. I found myself wondering if the significance of the liquid being changed and then back again was to be symbolic of the emotions of a man during confinement and interrogation.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree. The end of the video was symbolic of the emotions of a man who had experienced some type of adversity. I also think the beginning of the video was symbolic of a man wavering in faith. I failed to provide evidence clear enough to translate these claims. Thank you for helping me notice my flaws in my response to this video.
DeleteI agree with your summary. Especially your ending it made me look at it on a deeper level. When I watched the video all I heard was annoying sounds and not a symbolic meaning.
Deletethe main point at first seems to be the painful effects of sound at certain frequencies and decibel levels, though the true main point is the use of sound in torture. the intro is used to give the viewer a small seemingly unbiased background in the harmful effects of sound, before revealing the true nature of the video
ReplyDeleteI don't disagree with you completely but I feel that your response wasn't in depth to the video. Also I believe that there was only one main point, how sound can be used as a form of torture, not a main point and then a true main point. Otherwise I basically see what you are saying and agree with you.
DeleteYeah, I use odd phrasing
DeleteThe main point of this video was simply how something so rudimentary as sound can be used as a torture device, specifically in places such as Guantanamo Bay. This introduction starts out with a series of head aching sounds as an example of how the sound can be torturous. This middle of the video could have been slightly more interesting had the guy not just been talking about the prison, but more in depth on the sound and maybe he could have even played someone of the noises. At the ending of the video when you see the solid break down into a liquid, it is almost a metaphor for how the sounds can break down your inner ear and become morphed and painful.
ReplyDeleteWhile I do agree with you on some points, I disagree with your statement about the middle part of the video. I find that the man's experiences in prison were the driving force behind this video and if he did not talk about the prison, there wouldn't be any context behind how "music" was used as an effective torture method. Instead, it would just be random grating noises without any meaning or purpose. Also, just as a personal opinion, I do not understand how a man talking about being tortured for two years is uninteresting - I actually find that that is what shapes and personalizes just how torturous this method can be.
DeleteI agree with your overall blog except the part where you said the man was the driving force. I think without the man the video still could've got its point across with other examples, but other than that I totally agree :)
DeleteI concur, the video may actually improve without the man in the intro, I found it quite difficult understanding what he was saying
DeleteThe main point of this video is the effects that different frequencies (typically distortion) has on the ears, and how they used this as an interrogation method. The supporting evidence was towards the middle of the video when they mentioned being at Guantanamo Bay; they would have the prisoners locked up in a chair forced to listen to the music on full blast. It wasn’t that the music itself was torturous, but the distortion that was caused from it being too loud had caused permanent damage on the ears. The middle part was convincing enough with the evidence that was provided. In the conclusion of the video, the liquid becoming a solid was just more proof of how distortion can effect things. It would be similar in the ear since ear wax is a liquid to begin with, the distortion causes pain in the ears.
ReplyDeleteI never thought about how the distortion of sound could have that affect. Very interesting especially with your comment of the ear wax being a liquid. However, I felt the most important part of the video was the man talking of his experience and his struggle outside of being in chains and being caged. That is what I got from the video, but you do make a good point.
DeleteThe relationship of pain, listening, hearing, and responding was the main argument in this video. The detainee starts the video In prayer asking his higher power if his prayers are being heard, during his time of adversity, painful interrogation, and animalistic captivity. The narrator speaks of pain being inflicted to ones ears by the use of decibels at any level. Even if the sound is a whistle if inflicted long enough it can become damaging and painful, even after the sound has stopped. The detainee was interrogated with high levels of music and cold surroundings, in hopes he would produce a relevant response or admission of guilt. The detainee kept asking of his higher power if he was loved and wondering if he was being heard. This shows a break in faith or his faith became a little distorted with time, as does hearing. According to the video distortion of sound can become more annoying than the sound itself over time. The detainee also refers to his days being slow. I assume during those slow days he was awaiting a response from his higher power or some sort of mercy and deliverance from the pain that was given over a long period of time. The video ends showing what delivered the sound and the effects sound waves have on objects whether the sound is high or low, still remain. Although the detainee's prayers may have been heard and answered with a response of release, the damage that was caused over time still remained.
ReplyDeleteThe main argument of the video was that, at certain points, sound can become very painful and even leave damage to the ears. The introduction gave a brief background on this, explaining at which points sound can cause pain. The video further proved this point by the story of the Guantanamo Bay detainee. He confirms that sound was used as a form of torture. If it is used for torture, then how annoying or painful must it be capable of becoming? The video uses both auditory and visual examples of sound and its effects on the human ear, including very loud music. The narrator mentions how even the distortion from a cheap speaker can cause pain in one's ears. The video is summed up with a very good example of how sound can turn a liquid into a solid, and silence can change it back again, further demonstrating the damage that a high amount of sound can cause.
ReplyDeleteThe main argument of the is video effect of sound, and how it can be used not only for good but for bad as well. The introduction explains the types of sounds, frequencies and the effects they have on the ear. The main support comes from the subject’s testimony. He affirms what the introduction claims. If the subject actually stated what was being done to him, and for what reason, then this definitely would make the argument more convincing.
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